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And she wasn't, that Mary Magdalene was Jesus wife. Do you think they will be forgiven for that sin?

This is just a what if question, dont need no religous lectures.

If Mary M. was not a prostitute and the Catholic Church said she was, it would only be a sin if those in the Catholic Church were deliberately lying. That is, if some people in the Church slandered her, or "bore false witness," as it's known. If it was a mistake or a misperception, then it isn't a sin.

But anyway, "the Catholic Church" in its entirety wouldn't be the sinner in such a case. Sinners are individuals, not entire groups, bodies, and entities. The person or people who told the lie--if indeed it was a lie--would be those who sinned.

Would they be forgiven? That is up to God. Any speculation as to God's judgment and mercy is hubris...not to mention idiocy. All you and I need to know is that God is a just God, and God is a merciful God. God himself tells us that we need to leave his work to him, and keep our own hands out of it.

2006-08-12 10:19:13 by Sentinal

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But there are other gospels of the life of Jesus not in the Bible such as Mary Magdelene's own gospel. As well as the secrets of the Last Supper painting.

Simple... Because it never happened except in a piece of fiction by Dan Brown.

2009-02-10 13:13:27 by General Custard

well they are always talking about the holy virgin and jesus but what about mary Magdalene how come the church leaves her out, and people always call her a whore but i do not think she is i actually like her just like peter bartlome

they do mention her, but they also go by a calander on which readings are red-- and at what time of the year,even which year --i think it's a four year calander that goes threw the whole bible--also since the catholics are world wide with this calander they are all studing the same thing at the same time. she is also one of my favorites.

2009-01-22 06:59:55 by Miss Arie

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I have seen on the news that Mary Magdalene was not ever a prostitute. The Catholic church at some point began describing her that way for whatever reason. So I've heard. Is it in the bible?

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This is exactly the kind of hostile rejection that the prominent role of women in the early church has faced for hundreds of years.

Canon Edward Norman, a noted Church historian in England, has defined this as a struggle between "dubious feminist theology" and "rigorous
scholarship."

Notice that Norman says that the only things we know about Mary Magdalene come from the Gospels. Yet, he goes on to say that what we have there is an
account of a "repentant ex-prostitute" who became a faithful follower of Jesus. If anyone's theology is dubious here it is Norman's. It is a fact that the Bible does not say that Mary Magdalene was ever a prostitute. I pointed this out in my essay. Yet, Norman can blatantly say that the Gospels portray her as a repentant ex-prostitute. Even as he is saying that "there is no other source" of knowledge about Mary Magdalene other than the Bible, he strongly asserts that she was an ex-prostitute even though that notion comes to us from extrabiblical noncanonical sources.

Rigorous scholarship reveals that there is no reference to Mary Magdalene as a prostitute at all in the Bible. If anything, "dubious traditionalist theology" has thought it important enough to label Mary Magdalene as a
prostitute even though the Gospels do not say that. It is the traditionalist view that engages in much speculation about Mary Magdalene. It is kind of
amazing when you think of all the stories, homilies, and sermons that go on and on about Magdalene the "penitent whore." Most people think that this
comes from the Bible simply because it has been repeated so often.

Traditionalist church historians have no problem believing sources outside of the Scriptures IF those sources do not challenge their own notions. For
example, most of them teach that Paul was beheaded by the Romans between 66-69 AD. They teach that Peter was crucified upside down. They teach that
John lived to be 90 or 100 years old in exile. ALL of this information comes to us from noncanonical writings. And they are all probably true. However, noncanonical writings that challenge their own ideas are quickly and
summarily discredited and not even seriously discussed.

My point is that traditionalist scholars like Norman seem to believe that they are unbiased and objective while the scholars that they don't agree with are biased, slanted, and pushing an agenda with ulterior motives. In fact, we can see from Norman's statements that he seems to be pushing an agenda himself. He seems intent on perpetuating this image of Mary Magdalene
as an ex-prostitute even though he knows that the Scripture says no such thing. And yet he says that this account comes from the Gospels!! He KNOWS
that the Bible says no such thing. Well, I'm assuming that he knows. If he doesn't, then he can't be much of a church historian.

It is "dubious traditionalist theology" that maintains that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute even though the Bible does not say that. It is the same "dubious traditionalist theology" that maintains that the Beloved Disciple is St. John even though the Bible does not say that either.

The traditionalist view(s) are NOT free of all bias. Therefore, it is fair to scrutinize widely held beliefs even if they have been believed for a long
time.




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by Patricia Chadwick
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The name “Mary Magdalene” can evoke different images to various people. Many see her as a deranged woman suffering from being possessed by demons, while others view her as a fallen woman, even a prostitute. Although the Biblical record is not silent on the matter, we are only given a few details about the life of Mary Magdalene in the Bible - and you may be surprised what the Scripture does and doesn’t say! While the facts of Mary’s life are sketchy at best, one thing is perfectly clear: Mary Magdalene loved Jesus, and Jesus loved her. In fact, her story will forever remain entwined with the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The name “Mary” occurs 51 times in the New Testament and is taken from the Old Testaments names of Miriam and Mara, which mean “bitter”. The root of the name “Mary” is derived from the notion of trouble and sorrow (Lockyer, All the Women of The Bible, p. 92.) Being a common name during this time period, this Mary was distinguished from all others by being referred to as “The Magdalene”, which identifies her as being born in Magdala, a thriving city on the coast of Galilee about three miles from Capernaum. The city of Magdala was known for its primitive textile factories and dye works. While it is only speculation, it could be that Mary Magdalene was connected in some way with that industry, which would have enabled her to help support the ministry of Jesus, as she was known to have done.

There is nothing in the Biblical record of Mary’s family life. The Scripture does not list her parentage, any family members, her marital status, or her age. The gospel accounts of her life suggest that she had no family obligations, thus freeing her to follow Jesus in His traveling ministry.

While many equate Mary Magdalene with the woman of Luke 7:37 “which was a sinner” or the woman caught in adultery in John 8:3, there is not the slightest evidence in the gospel narratives or in the writings of the early church fathers to support the claim that Mary Magdalene had ever been a woman of ill repute. What the Bible does tell us about her is that she had been possessed by seven demons, which probably caused her to have bouts of insanity, and that Jesus cast them out of her, freeing her from that awful malady (Luke 8:2). Being delivered from her tormenting captors, Mary became a disciple of Jesus, to whom she showed great love and devotion. Along with other women, Mary gave both personal and financial support to the ministry of Jesus, following Him from place to place in his missionary activities.

Mary Magdalene is mentioned fourteen times in the gospels and from that record we can compose a sketchy profile of her life. It is worth noting that in eight of the fourteen instances that she is mentioned, Mary is named in connection with other women, of which she is always named first. This would lead us to believe that she occupied the place at the front in service rendered by godly women. In the five times she is mentioned alone, it is in connection with the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (Mark 16:9; John 20:1, 11, 16, 18).

Forever faithful to her Lord, Mary Magdalene was among the last at the cross to witness Christ’s death and, following Joseph of Arimathea to see where Jesus’ body would be laid, she was the last to leave His tomb after night had fallen. Intending to honor Christ by anointing His body with spices and perfumes, she was the first to visit the tomb on resurrection morning and the first to carry the news that Jesus had risen from the dead.

What a great honor God bestowed upon Mary in permitting her to be the first witness of His resurrection! The gospel of John tells us best of what happened that day. Mary was at the tomb at first light that first Easter morning. How surprised she must have been to see the stone rolled away! Peering into the cave she saw that it was empty, which made her weep. After finding the grave empty, Mary rushed to find Peter and John and blurted out, “They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulcher and we know not where they have laid him”. Peter and John went to the tomb with Mary and found that she told them the truth, but they left, departing “to their own homes”. But Mary stayed. It was then, after speaking to two angels, that Jesus revealed himself to Mary.

After comforting her, Jesus commissioned Mary to be the first messenger of His resurrection. It was her job to, “go to the brethren and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God” (John 20:17). What an honor to be the first to herald the resurrection!

There is much we can learn from the life of Mary Magdalene. In her life we can see just how much Christ can do for a woman. He delivered her afflicted, tormented soul and healed her of all her afflictions, leaving her a changed woman.

Through her life we not only learn what Christ can do for us, but what we can do for Him. His great love and compassion toward her completely changed her life and led Mary to become a faithful, sacrificial follower. So grateful for her deliverance, Mary practiced her faith by following Jesus and ministering to Him and his disciples out of her financial means and taking care of their physical needs. Her gratitude and love manifested itself in her devotion to Christ.

Christ’s work for Mary Magdalene and her loving ministration to Him constitute the type of elevation of woman to the rank of friendship with man. She was no longer to be considered a slave or servant, but his co-worker and equal, capable of accepting equal responsibilities and sharing equally in the results.

Mary Magdalene owed much, gave much, loved much and served much. She is a wonderful example of a woman whose life was poured out in response to God’s extravagant grace.

2006-04-28 22:21:41 by weezermcgilicutty

In the Mary Magdalene account, "salvation is not something that comes from an external saviour," says King. "One has to seek salvation within." Thus, the Magdalene gospel depicts Jesus as a teacher rather than as a saviour who dies to atone for humanity's sins.

Please remember the chuch apologized in 1969 for Pope Gregory's lie."Mary's identity as a prostitute stems from Homily 33 of Pope Gregory I, delivered in the year 591... Only in 1969 did the Catholic Church officially repeal Gregory's labeling of Mary Magdalene as a whore, thereby admitting their error ."
Sorry, Mary not May. I can't type when I am cold.

They wanted to discredit her because the writings attributed to her didn't jibe with the direction they decided to take christianity. You do know, don't you, that the nature of jesus (including whether or not he was the son of god), his "mission" while alive, his death, and his alleged resurrection -- all of these were topics of debate for hundreds of years after he was long gone...? The "agreed upon" doctrines that became the dogma of the catholic church weren't agreed upon until the council of Nice in 325 CE, and even that didn't settle the matter. Disagreements with the conclusions of the council led to several splinter groups -- and although this was often pointed to by christians as the time the "whole church" was unified, in reality it was the first of many, many schisms over doctrinal differences. The entire group of "christians" has in fact NEVER agreed on doctrine, on what the real story of the life of jesus was, on his divinity, etc.

Oh, and there is also a fair amount of evidence that Mary Magdalene was in fact jesus' wife. No, I didn't pull that out of "Da Vinci Code" -- Dan Brown put it in his book because it's an idea that has been around for thousands of years. And it may very well be true. Yet another reason for the church to discredit her -- if she really was jesus' wife, there goes that whole jesus was perfect, sex is bad, celibacy is godly thing. :)

Peace.

2007-01-15 19:19:29 by GorgeousTx Vote the fundies out