our lady of hope catholic church

If we are Poor and homeless, Why can't we go to Church and feel welcome? Me and my wife went to a Catholic Church in McAllen, Tx 2009, A woman doing the Bible Class Asked my Wife ( Why you coming to this Church For) This church is Our Lady of Sorrows. Plus I am this persons wife. Along with this woman who put up another woman helping at the Star of Hope center, The Bible Study teacher said in the beginning that she would not say such a thing, several weeks later I went back to get more food from this center. As I am disabled and need help with food especially at the end of the month. Personnally I would like for these 2 women to apologize to me for saying WHY ARE YOU COMING TO THIS CHURCH FOR Also another man from this Church said that the Bible is 2000 yrs old, and times have changed. Yes times have changed, but the teachings of the Bible HAVE NOT changed, neither HAS GOD changed. What I am referring to on this is that Women should not be over arthority over Men. 1Timothy 2:12-15.I like the NAB version of the Bible. I need to go back to where I went back to get more food, I told this woman that she was RUDE for saying WHY ARE YOU COMING TO THIS CHURCH FOR at the time she first asked this she was right in my face saying this. I also went to the MNSRG of this church to state what she said to me, he told me to go back to her and say that he was upset with her actions, and he would say something to her that it was wrong. My husband and I are members of this church, as perscribed by rules of the commodities registration office in Hidalgo county. I want others to reply if you think that these 2 women had that right to judge me and my husband?

Nobody has the right to judge you. Times are hard right now for everybody. I am going through savings right now trying to return back to work full time. Thankfully next Monday I will be back to full time over there. 31 hours a week. I will be working a flexible schedule so I have a break in the middle of the day to come home and nurse my newborn. God Bless you and I hope people learn to be caring kind individuals.

2009-02-18 12:48:20 by j b

Latinos at the church and across the community are shaken does an illegal have the right to break the law he was selling food because he was undocumented and couldn't find a job the church expressed problems with street vendors for over a year, why do many Churches feel illegals should be allowed to break the law ? Is the Church ignoring the laws of America thereby injecting their own laws based on their teaching of the Church supersudes laws on earth and such laws in America ?The Catholic Diocese of Charlotte is looking into why a local priest asked a sheriff's deputy to arrest a man selling food on church property.

Carlos Ramirez, 40, identified as an illegal immigrant via the jail's 287(g) program, is now in the process of being deported after his Nov. 15 arrest on trespassing charges at Our Lady of the Assumption.

Ramirez, an unlicensed street vendor from Mexico, was selling corn-on-the-cob to parishioners of the Shamrock Drive church following a Spanish language mass.

Church officials said the Rev. Philip Scarcella was wrong to ask the deputy to arrest Ramirez without first checking with the diocese.

"A policy wasn't followed here and we really regret that Mr. Ramirez was arrested," said David Hains, spokesman for the diocese. "We regret also that it looks like he's going to be deported."

The incident comes as the national debate over illegal immigration once again heats up. The Catholic church has been a leading voice in the push for immigration reform that would legalize millions of illegal immigrants.

Latinos at the church and across the community are shaken.

"The role of the church is to be ministering to a community that now more than ever needs hope," said Jess George, interim director of the Latin American Coalition. "And it's worrisome when trust may be broken when there isn't enough concern given to the immigrant experience."

Calls to speak with officials at Our Lady of the Assumption church were referred to the diocese.

Hains said that the Shamrock Drive church in East Charlotte has had problems with street vendors for over a year.

Scarcella has been concerned about the safety of the food and traffic problems that arise because of the number of vendors, Hains said.

Vendors had been warned multiple times, including receiving a written notice that they could be arrested.

But Janet Contreras, a member of the church originally from Peru, said the church should have considered that Ramirez was selling food because he was undocumented and couldn't find a job.

"He wasn't outside pointing a gun at people demanding money," said Contreras, who said she is changing churches. "Yes, it's private property, but it's a church."

The Catholic Church has long supported immigrants and helped to lead protests around the country. In 2005, the U.S. Catholic bishops launched the Justice for Immigrants campaign.

Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles wrote last week in a national editorial that the country must pass reform "that better balances our country's need for a stable work force with the orderly flow of immigrants."

Ramirez, who is from Mexico, entered the country legally in June 2008 on a temporary work visa, officials said. He was supposed to return in December 2008.

He is being held at the Mecklenburg County Jail on a $500 state bond and a $5,000 immigration bond.

Julia Rush, spokesperson for the sheriff's department, said Ramirez will be turned over to immigration officials once his state charge is satisfied.

Ramirez told a local reporter for the Spanish-language newspaper Mi Gente that he moved to the United States to help with rebuilding efforts in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. He moved to Charlotte afterward in search of jobs. He became a street vendor after failing to find work in construction or restaurants, according to Patricia Ortiz of Mi Gente.

Ortiz, who met with Ramirez in jail on Tuesday, said Ramirez was almost crying about being deported. He didn't understand why he was arrested for selling food. But, Ortiz said, he says he has forgiven the priest.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/s tory/1119341.html

A dificult situation. It is against what the Church represents to have somebody arrested just for selling food

2009-12-13 12:14:13 by ANNIE

I have worked in the hotel industry in some way or another for 13 years now. My girlfriend has worked in hotels for 4 years now (different hotel). Many different religious groups stay for conferences and holy events. Often we would cringe when we saw their names on the calendar. Some of these groups were incredibly rude.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you may see your church on here and not like what you see. But this isn't a lie. Any of you working in similar workplaces will probably agree. I do realize that some congregations differ from their church as a whole, but we often had major groups of many congregations, not just one.
Here are some churches that I have dealt with.
1. Assembly of God. Never seem to understand tipping. I once took luggage from individual rooms (upstairs, no elevator) and loaded two busses. I received one thank-you and a $1 tip. Both from an old lady with one bag. It was common for them to just leave spare change as tips for waitresses. They weren't necessarily rude, but didn't understand "thank-you" and tipping.
Note: Once a minister from one of these conventions parked in a handicapped spot. He got a ticket. He came into the lobby and threw the ticket at the front desk clerk and said that we should take care of it. For all I know, he never paid it nor felt bad for parking in a handicapped spot.
2. United Church of Christ: Decent tippers, but acted like we owed them the world. For some reason this church always seems to request every possible ammenity. Also two members come to mind during a convention. One got a ticket for fishing without a license on our lake. He brought the ticket up to the counter and asked us to take care of it. Many from this group demanded money off from their rooms because it was raining outside. I hope this makes no sense to you either. The second individual demanded to be refunded for buying her own bedspread. Ours had blood on it. Well actually it was a red stamp with our initials on it. She actually got her money and kept her beadspread eventhough I showed her the stamp.
3. Watchtower. Apparently those little pamphlets that they hand out work as tips too. For some reason the grocery store won't accept them as currency. They treated us like we didn't exist, unless of course they were unhappy. This is the only religious group that I know of that would still demand a refund on a room after this. A guest turned off the AC in their room. Later on that day they called for maintenance. Maintenance came in, turned the AC back on, and left. The next day the guests asked for their money back because they didn't have AC. Wow.
4. Jews for Jesus: The worst! Their events were so poorly organized. One member plugged her toilet late at night, then blamed it on the maid and said she wanted her room for free. Wow! They had requested no service. The maid never entered their room.
5. Catholic church: We actually only had the priests and bishops at our hotel for an annual conference. Other than one priest telling me I was a "f*ck*ng idiot", they were a great and peaceful group to have. How the members themselves would be, I don't know.
6. Baptists: Fun! But tipping must not be in their vocabulary either.
7. Hasidic Jews: Incredibly demanding. While I understand how important your holy days are, you're going to have to give us some slack when we are trying to make our third kitchen completely kosher for your event. So Julio forgot about the bag of frozen shrimp in the freezer. He's only human. I'm sure God will understand. Yes, we would scrub down one of our three kitchens and remove all non-Kosher items for some Jewish groups. The group never came back after Julio's bag of frozen shrimp.
8. United Church of God: Incredibly demanding. Decent tippers, professional, and pleasant for the most part. However the church was just as demanding as the Hasidic Jews. The only church that ever requested a bar. Interesting. No, no one got drunk.
9: Living Church of God: From my understanding they are related to the above church. A little more friendly, but still quite demanding.
10: The Unicorn Church: I'm told that they are Wiccans, but they prayed to Jesus. So maybe this is an isolated church. They were good tippers, incredibly friendly, and a wonderful group. I felt like I was part of their group at the end of the week.
11. Intervarsity Christian Fellowship: No, we didn't charge you for a late checkout because these specific members were black. It's impossible for us to have rooms cleaned by 4pm if you checkout at 2pm. You do realize that tipping is an American custom?
12. Evangelical churches: My employees have work to do. Could you please stop trying to convert them? Could you also stop assuming that they all don't know Jesus? One group kept trying to push the rapture on me. I said that I felt the chosen people would go through a similar scenario as the Israelites in Egyp
Anyone have any similar experiences?
Icthus: But isn't it odd that most church groups are the rudest groups? It's not wrong of me to generalize my experiences.

I never worked in a hotel but I did volunteer at a center where they gave free food and all the street people would come and get the free food and sell it or trade the food for crack , and I thought, how rude when so many people are going hungry, but the pastor who was organizing said that it was to be given to whoever asked and what they did with it was entirely on them. He did his job. The moral of the story is not that every person asking for food must be a crackhead, but that we are judged by our fruits and one must keep track of his own. So No, I don't believe that all should be evaluated by the ways of some.

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A south Omaha Catholic church overflowed Sunday with 600 people calling for an overhaul of immigration laws.

Across town, 100 people at a United Methodist chapel heard personal stories from immigrants hoping that Congress will create a path to legalization.

The local events coincided with a national march in Washington, D.C. -- attended by more than 30 Nebraskans -- that was intended to inject life into the stalled immigration debate.

The ultimate goal: to nudge Congress to revamp the country's immigration system, including finding an avenue for undocumented immigrants to gain legal status.

Luis Marcos stood before the group inside the Mead Chapel at Omaha's First United Methodist Church to tell his story.

He left Guatemala for the United States at age 17 to join family members who already had made the trek north. Now he works as a phlebotomist.

Drawing people's blood for a living has taught him a lesson about humanity, Marcos said.

“It's red, and it's nice and warm,” Marcos said. “No matter who you are.”

The Rev. Neal Wilkinson said the rallies were designed in part to reinforce the notion that the United States was a country founded by and for immigrants.

“This is so long overdue,” he said of immigration legislation. “We all have to remember where we came from.”

At Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic Church, an estimated 600 crammed into pews and aisles for a Mass followed by speeches in support of immigrant rights, said co-organizer Abbie Kretz of the Heartland Workers Center.

Symbolic gifts were brought to the altar with the bread and wine.

An old shoe symbolized those who crossed the desert into the United States, a white cross for those who died trying to make the journey, handcuffs for those who have been jailed for not having papers, a hard hat and a hammer for the work of immigrants and their dignity as human beings, a book for young people and the future, and roses for the Virgin Mary in a petition for her prayer as a mother.

The speakers stressed hope.

The Rev. Jose Mendoza, administrator at the church, compared today's Latino immigrants to the Israelites in the time of Moses.

“God helped them into the promised land,” Mendoza said during his homily, just as “God gave a new land” to today's immigrants. The Latinos also are looking to God for liberty, he said.

A junior in high school told her personal story to the congregation.

The 17-year-old said she arrived from Mexico 10 years ago on Christmas Eve. She said she remembered how sad her mother was because she had no gifts for her children.

The teenager said she faces an uncertain future, with no documents to work in the U.S. and with few scholarships available because she is not a citizen. But she is hopeful, she said.
http://www.omaha.com/article/20100322/NE WS01/703229915/0

if they are doing this they should lose their tax exemption. the catholic church has been involve in many cover ups with regards to those pedophile priests and they need money. attracting the illegal hispanic community is one way to get money.a lot of catholics have been turned off by this and have angrily voiced their disapproval.many have just left the church .

2010-03-23 10:22:34 by THE GREATEST GODDESS JILL

use statues and orthodox churches use icons? can orthodox churches us statues in the churches? I have a small icon of Our Lady but I dont know what icon is it? it looks like virgin with a child in her stomach.. in both sides of her head.. there are two angels.. I have seen that icon but I dont know what virgin is it? I hope your answers from catholics and orthodoxs.. btw I am catholic and I like orthodox icons..

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