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The catechism states(paragraph 1900, Catechism of the Catholic Church):

1900: The duty of obedience requires all to give due honor to authority and to treat those who are charged to exercise it with respect, and, insofar as it is deserved, with gratitude and good-will.

Pope St. Clement of Rome provides the Church's most ancient prayer for political authorities: "Grant to them, Lord, health, peace, concord, and stability, so that they may exercise without offense the sovereignty that you have given them. Master, heavenly King of the ages, you give glory, honor, and power over the things of earth to the sons of men. Direct, Lord, their counsel, following what is pleasing and acceptable in your sight, so that by exercising with devotion and in peace and gentleness the power that you have given to them, they may find favor with you."

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/1900. htm

As a catholic against amnesty, i can't understand why the church is for it.Why can't we enforce our laws?
And send all the illegals back to their country of origin? don't they understand that these people are stealing from american taxpayers?

*sigh*, It makes me so said to see our country being sold to illegal aliens.

I was raised Catholic but I am outraged that the church is advocating illegal immigration. The Catholic Church has lots of rules that don't make sense to me, like using a condom is a sin. So you just have to keep having children even if you can't afford it. Either that or don't have sex. Makes no sense.

2007-06-26 22:44:24 by iammisc

Recorded on February 25, 2011 using a Flip Video camera.

Fellows,

Why do some people believe that Constantine I created the Catholic Church?

You see, the reign of Constantine was AD 280- AD 337 whereas the first mention of the Catholic church was in St. Ignatius' writing "katholike ecclesia" in 110 AD. The Catholic church was also merely an attempt by St. Paul to form a uniform system of beliefs between all of the varied locales of the early Christians. This system became a heirarchy which was described by St. Clement in the year 96 AD when he detailed the church as an army where "not all are officers.. each has his rank, carrying out the orders of the leader."Also, the "scholar" Origen was arrested and wrote numerous letters pleading for papal intercession in ~ AD 280.

So, where is PROOF that Constantine created the church despite the numerous accounts of a previously functional catholic church?

It's a bogus claim that comes from people that, for whatever reason, want to believe the Catholic Church is bogus. They attempt to "prove" it's allegedly fallacious claim of origin in Jesus by attempting to rewrite history that separates Jesus from His Church.

Emperor Constantine and the Edict of Milan seems to be the best place, from their point of view, to severe Jesus from His Church. Up until the Edict of Milan, the Church existed largely in secret, literally underground and away from life-threatening persecution.

Emperor Constaine, his conversion to Catholicism, and the Edict of Milan are all matters of easily verifiable secular historical record. These events occur, and Christianity comes out from hiding. It spreads like wildfire because being a Christian is no longer life-threating, and the fact is it state-sponsored by the Roman Empire.

Much of what Catholicism has to say about it's origin's in Jesus stems from the Bible, Church Fathers such as Saint Ingnatius, but secular-mind types who are running this Constantine-ploy simply dismiss these sources as unreliable.

Given the fact that the Church was in hiding until the forth century, what little information that did become public is easily swept under the rug or just forgotten in time. Put simply, it's easy to bury the history of the Church's REAL first four centuries of existance.

You, me, others like us, we know better. We are open to the Truth, and that's why It appears so obvious to us. To others that are against the Church, you know the saying, "There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see."

2007-05-20 03:16:45 by Brandon H

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Where it Listed Catholic Feast Days for the 100% KJB believers to celerbrate

These calendars/Almanacs included many feast paying honor to many early Christians and Church fathers as the fallowing few [and these are just a few of them]:
Mar. 12 St Gregorie [ A Pope of the Catholic Church]
Aug. 28 St Augustine [one of the greatest Catholic writers of all time]
Sept. 26 St. Cyplian, [Catholic of Antioch who suffered martyrdom during the persecution of Diocletian at Nicomedia, 26 September, 304, the date in September being afterwards made the day of his feast]
Sept. 30 St. Jerome, [The creator of the Latin Vulgate, died at Bethlehem, 30 September, 420]
Oct. 9 St. DDenis [Bishop of Paris, and martyr. Born in Italy, nothing is definitely known of the time or place, or of his early life. His feast is kept on 9 October. . Denis with his two companions were seized and as they persevered in their faith were beheaded (about 275) after many tortures]
Oct. 26 St. Crispine [beheaded during the reign of Diocletian; the date of their execution is given as 26 October, 285 ]
Nov. 23 St Clement [ A Pope of the Catholic Church]

As for the Saints departed, I honour their memory, and in honour of them do we in our Church observe the days of so many of them as the Scripture doth canonize for saints" [From A Premonition to All Most Mighty Monarchs, Kings, Free Princes, and States of Christendom Works, ed. James Montague, Bp. of Wint hester (1616), pp. 301-308.]
Nov. 23 St Clement [ A Pope of the Catholic Church]
Gee they even honored a Catholic Pope
nd we all know who he was
Pope Clement I (called CLEMENS ROMANUS to distinguish him from the Alexandrian), is the first of the successors of St. Peter

so much for the king james bible belivers who say that the catholic church started in 300 ad
it's not in the Bible to celebrate catholic saints... specially in the KJV 1611

Try reading the original 1611 not the one edited by the scottish bible society gee i wonder why they wanted to keep the truth from you
you can find it on the net
it's not in the Bible to celebrate catholic saints... specially in the KJV 1611. i'm a baptist Christian

and the KJV was translated for angelicans bozo

And they shun me because I honor saints. Pff! They should double check their book!

2009-02-06 19:32:25 by Marty

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Should the Catholic Church Delete these Popes from their records..

St. Peter (32-67) St. Linus (67-76) St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88) St. Clement I (88-97) St. Evaristus (97-105) St. Alexander I (105-115)St. Sixtus I (115-125) St. Telesphorus (125-136) St. Hyginus (136-140) St. Pius I (140-155) St. Anicetus (155-166) St. Soter (166-175) St. Eleutherius (175-189) St. Victor I (189-199) St. Zephyrinus (199-217) St. Callistus I (217-22) St. Urban I (222-30) St. Pontain (230-35) St. Anterus (235-36) St. Fabian (236-50) St. Cornelius (251-53)
St. Lucius I (253-54) St. Stephen I (254-257) St. Sixtus II (257-258) St. Dionysius (260-268) St. Felix I (269-274) St. Eutychian (275-283) St. Caius (283-296) St. Marcellinus (296-304) St. Marcellus I (308-309)

And all the other Saints and Martyrs Of the Church Of Christ. (Catholic Church) Before Constantine.
Saint Ignatius (35-107), the second Bishop of Antioch wrote a letter to the Smyrneans in 107 A.D..
In this letter is recorded the first known use of the words "Catholic Church"...
Paragraph #8
"You must all follow the lead of the bishop, as Jesus Christ followed that of the Father; follow the presbytery as you would the Apostles; reverence the deacons as you would God's commandment. Let no one do anything touching the Church, apart from the bishop. Let that celebration of the Eucharist be considered valid which is held under the bishop or anyone to whom he has committed it. Where the bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not permitted without authorization from the bishop either to baptize or to hold an agape; but whatever he approves is also pleasing to God. Thus everything you do will be proof against danger and valid."
To deny this you have to have your head way up your azz

Clements many writings prove that the Catholic Church was strong and consolidating writing almost immediately after the Apostles died off.

www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/secretmark.html

2008-07-15 06:11:06 by Marty

If you believe (wrongly) that the Catholic Church was not created until a few centuries after Christ's death, then how is it you can find among ancient Christian writings the letters of Pope Clement I, who was Pope and Bishop of Rome from 88 AD to 97 AD ?

In the list of Popes......
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.h tm
.. the first four are:

St. Peter (32-67 AD)
St. Linus (67-76 AD)
St. Anacletus (76-88 AD)
St. Clement I (88-97 AD)

So, how can this be if there was no Catholic Church or no Popes until the 4th century?

(Realize this is a rhetoorical question.)
LINKS....
On the Church:
http://www.catholic.com/library/Pillar.a sp
On Purgatory (includes lessons in Real Audio):
http://www.fisheaters.com/purgatory.html
On the saints:
http://www.catholic.com/library/mary_sai nts.asp
On the Pope:
http://www.catholic.com/library/church_p apacy.asp
TO "jim j": How did you squeeze so much misinformation and disinformation into one answer?
TO "Underground Man": WRONG. I suggest you read these quotes of the early Christians:
http://www.catholic.com/library/Peter_Su ccessors.asp

Oh I am sure they think we made it all up. History is not well known apparently. This is one of the reasons that for this home school year my sons and I are studying the History of the Catholic Church.

2007-12-14 10:08:11 by Catholic Crusader