st peter and paul catholic church

would like to have mass said for Mr Norman L. Meyer (deceased June 1, 2006) he was a member of this parish for many years and a very dear friend to me and my family since 1966.

Saints Peter & Paul Parish
200 3rd Street
Beaver, PA 15009-2321
Phone: (724) 775-4111

2008-03-09 08:10:14 by GGB

Fr. Fernando M. Suarez Homily and General Healing Prayer Sts. Peter and Paul Parish Bauang, La Union 16 June 2011

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It is crystal clear here, as St. Paul wrote to the Galatians:
“I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ. For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it. And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers. But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.” -Galatians 1:11-17

St. Paul was Saul of Tarsus, zealously persecuting Christians. (Acts 7:58-8:3)
Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus. (Acts 9)
“Immediately”, St. Paul went and preached the Gospel. (Acts 9:20)

And as he himself testified in the Galatians verse above:
He preached a Gospel that was not according to man.
He did not receive it from man.
He was not taught it by man.
He did not confer with man.
He was not commissioned by man.

That is the Gospel was not according to, received from, taught by, or commission by the Catholic Church, a Pope, or St. Peter!

Jesus Christ revealed Himself to St. Paul; Jesus Christ commissioned St. Paul; Jesus Christ was St. Paul’s Leader and “Pope”, NOT St. Peter!

This is what St. Paul said about St. Peter being “Pope”:
“But from those who seemed to be something – whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man – for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me.” -Galatians 2:6

St. Paul says that the so-called “Pope” St. Peter added “nothing” to him and made “no difference”. He also stated that God shows personal favoritism to “no man” – not even St. Peter!

So, Catholics: What about St. Paul? And what about all his letters that make up the New Testament?

If St. Paul didn’t claim St. Peter as his leader and “Pope”, then how could St. Paul be called a Catholic?
If St. Peter wasn’t St. Paul’s “Pope”, then to what human leader was St. Paul subject to?
Isn’t he disrespectful of your chief Pope, St. Peter?
Should you excommunicate St. Paul?
Should you tear out half of your New Testament – the 13-14 books/epistles that he wrote and burn them?

Or instead, is our only leader Jesus Christ – who revealed Himself to and commissioned St. Paul, just as He reveals Himself to and commissions His disciples today?

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michinok:
Absolutely not.
Carefully re-read my question, and you will see.
Catholics:
Here's an idea - how about answering my question rather than "attacking" Protestants with other random questions. If there is an answer, then answer it. I challenge Protestants all the time, and they answer...and the best ones give scripture to back up their answer. Let's deal with one issue at a time. If you have a completely seperate question, then ask it seperately. In case you weren't aware...that's how this "works". A person asks a question...desires an answer...and others answer it. Which part of this don't you understand?
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Here is the answer for Catholic claim of Peter or Paul or whoever:

1 Corinthians 3:
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
AND
21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Peter, Paul, Mary - sounds like candy or rock and roll - what it is is heresy.

A Christian is under the discipline of Christ and a Christian not a universalist.

Christ Jesus the Messiah and Anointed is the Head of the Church.

1Titus 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator
between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.

Ephesian 5:23-24
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Savior of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

In the very first words of many of Paul's letters and documents he states he is a servant, a slave, a bond servant of Jesus Christ.
Paul was under the direction of Jesus. fini

2007-12-12 12:21:46 by yachadhoo

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Galatians 2:14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the Gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all You are a Jew yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew , How is it it then that your force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs.

Only the Roman Pontiff is rightly called universal; the Pope can be judged by no one; no one can be regarded as a catholic who does not agree with the Roman church; the Roman Church has never erred and never will err till the end of time; the Roman Church was founded by Christ alone; the Pope alone can depose and restore bishops; he alone can make new laws, set up new bishoprics, and divide old ones; he alone can translate bishops to another see; he alone can call general councils and authorize canon law; he alone can revise his own judgments; his sentence cannot be repealed by anyone and he alone can review the judgments of all; he alone can use the imperial insignia; he can depose emperors; he can absolve subjects from their allegiance to impious rulers; the Pope is the only man to whom all princes bend the knee; all princes should kiss his feet; his legates, even those in inferior orders, have precedence over all bishops; an appeal to the papal court inhibits judgment by all inferior courts; a duly ordained pope is undoubtedly made a saint by the merits of St. Peter."

- Pope Gregory VII

Catholics claim peter was ther first pope. Catholics claim the pope is infalliable when it comes to doctrine. But we see Paul correcting Peter from the begining. How can that be?
http://www.trueorthodoxy.org/heretics_ro man_catholics_pope_as_christ.shtml
Omnie read vs 14 you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs.

Sounds like teaching to me.
Omnie read vs 14 you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs.

Sounds like teaching to me.
Omnie read vs 14 you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs.

Sounds like teaching to me.
I didnt mean to submit the last message 3 times, sorry
Max all i did was quote the pope, maybe he or you need better understanding. And his quote is clear.
Spider man the process is the Cathlic Church makes comments that are false then back tracks trying to correct them.
This is just one example

You make a lot of assumptions about the Pope that the Catholic Church never has. Paul was rebuking Peter about his actions and not about doctrine.

Here is what Pope Benedict XVI said (on October 1, 2008) about Paul's rebuke of Peter in Galatians 2:14:

The second episode is the well known incident in Antioch, Syria, that attests to the inner freedom Paul enjoyed: how should one behave when eating with believers of both Jewish and Gentile origin? Here the other epicentre of Mosaic observance emerges: the distinction between clean and unclean foods which deeply separated practising Jews from Gentiles. At the outset Cephas, Peter, shared meals with both; but with the arrival of certain Christians associated with James, "the Lord's brother" (Gal 1: 19), Peter began to avoid contact with Gentiles at table in order not to shock those who were continuing to observe the laws governing the cleanliness of food and his decision was shared by Barnabas. This decision profoundly divided the Christians who had come from circumcision and the Christians who came from paganism. This behaviour, that was a real threat to the unity and freedom of the Church, provoked a passionate reaction in Paul who even accused Peter and the others of hypocrisy: "If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?" (Gal 2: 14). In fact, the thought of Paul on the one hand, and of Peter and Barnabas on the other, were different: for the latter the separation from the Gentiles was a way to safeguard and not to shock believers who came from Judaism; on the contrary, for Paul it constituted the danger of a misunderstanding of the universal salvation in Christ, offered both to Gentiles and Jews. If justification is only achieved by virtue of faith in Christ, of conformity with him, regardless of any effect of the Law, what is the point of continuing to observe the cleanliness of foods at shared meals? In all likelihood the approaches of Peter and Paul were different: the former did not want to lose the Jews who had adhered to the Gospel, and the latter did not want to diminish the saving value of Christ's death for all believers.

It is strange to say but in writing to the Christians of Rome a few years later (in about the middle of the 50s a.D.), Paul was to find himself facing a similar situation and asked the strong not to eat unclean foods in order not to lose or scandalize the weak: "it is right not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that makes your brother stumble" (Rm 14: 21). The incident at Antioch thus proved to be as much of a lesson for Peter as it was for Paul. Only sincere dialogue, open to the truth of the Gospel, could guide the Church on her journey: "For the kingdom of God does not mean food and drink but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" (Rm 14: 17). It is a lesson that we too must learn: with the different charisms entrusted to Peter and to Paul, let us all allow ourselves to be guided by the Spirit, seeking to live in the freedom that is guided by faith in Christ and expressed in service to the brethren. It is essential to be conformed ever more closely to Christ. In this way one becomes really free, in this way the Law's deepest core is expressed within us: love for God and neighbour. Let us pray the Lord that he will teach us to share his sentiments, to learn from him true freedom and the evangelical love that embraces every human being.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedi ct_xvi/audiences/2008/documents/hf_ben-x vi_aud_20081001_en.html

With love in Christ.

2008-10-23 12:31:20 by TULSA

Christ gave the power to teach, to sanctify, and to rule the members of His Church to the Apostles, the first bishops of the Church.

St. Peter was the first Head. After a miraculous escape from prison in Jerusalem, he founded his See in Antioch; here the followers of Christ were first called Christians. Peter made frequent missionary journeys through Judea, Samaria, Galilee, Asia Minor, and probably even Greece. He finally fixed his See at Rome.

St. Peter presided at the Council of the Apostles in Jerusalem in the year 50 A. D. At the same time that St. Paul was beheaded, St. Peter was crucified head downwards, on Vatican Hill, Rome, 67 A. D.

St. John, the Beloved Disciple, lived at Ephesus and governed the Church in Asia Minor.

In the time of Trajan he was thrown into a caldron of boiling oil, but was miraculously preserved. Later he was banished to Patmos, where he had the revelations which we call the Apocalypse. He died at the age of about 100 years, the last of the Apostles, and the only one who did not die a martyr's death. He left his Gospel and Epistles.

St. James the Greater, St. John's brother, labored in Judea, and according to tradition, travelled as far as Spain.

He was the first of the Apostles to be martyred being beheaded in Jerusalem in the year 44, by Herod Agrippa.

St. Matthew preached among the Ethiopians, Persians, and Parthians, and was martyred in Parthia. He wrote the first of the four Gospels.

St. James the Less was Bishop of Jerusalem. He was cast down from the pinnacle of the Temple in 63 A. D. He left one Epistle.

St. Andrew, St. Peter's brother, preached along the lower Danube, and was crucified in Greece.

St. Thomas preached in Persia, Medea, and went as far as India. He was martyred in India, pierced with a lance at the command of the king.

St. Philip preached in Phrygia and Scythia, and was crucified at Hieropolis.

St. Bartholomew preached in India, Arabia,.and Assyria. He was flayed and crucified in Armenia.

St. Simon preached in North Africa, and was martyred in Persia.

St. Jude preached in Syria, and was martyred in Persia. He wrote the "Catholic Epistle".

St. Matthias, chosen to take the place of Judas, preached in Ethiopia, and was martyred in Sebastopolis.

St. Paul was converted miraculously (Acts 9) in the year 34. He of all the Apostles labored the most abundantly. He wrote many Epistles.

He is called the Apostle of the Gentiles, because he carried the Gospel to the pagan world. He travelled extensively and successively to Seleucia, Cyprus, Asia Minor, Phrygia, Galatia, Macedonia, Thessalonica, Athens, Corinth, Miletus, and finally Rome. From Rome he went to Spain and the East, then returned to Rome, where he was martyred in 67 A. D.

Christ intended that this power should be exercised also by their successors, the bishops of the Church.

The Apostles first preached in Judea on the very first Christian Pentecost. Then they dispersed throughout the different countries of the then known world. Everywhere they preached, baptized, and ruled the Christian communities. They were the first bishops of the Church.

"As the Father has sent me, I also send you" (John 20:21).

The Apostles chose men to assist them, imparting to them greater or less powers. Before leaving a place, they chose a successor with full powers (Acts 14:22).

Those who received only a small part of the powers of the Apostles were called deacons. Those given greater power were the priests. Those appointed successors to rule in the place of the Apostles were the bishops.

Christ had given the Apostles full powers to choose successors, when He gave them the powers His Father had given Him (John 20:21)

It was His wish that the Apostles should have successors to continue the Church, which He said would last till the end of the world (Matt. 28:20). Without successors to the Apostles, the Church would have no rulers, and being unorganized would never have lasted.

If they admitted that, then they woould have to conclude that Jesus started the catholic Church and would have to become Catholic

2009-05-03 11:08:20 by

Apostolic Church:
Our Saviour gave pre-eminience to Peter over the other Apostles: "I will give thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven" (Matt. 16:19). "Strengthen thy brethren" (Luke 22:32). "Feed my lambs; feed my sheep" (John 21:15-17).

Catholic Church:
The Catholic Church gives the primacy of honor and jurisdiction to Peter and to his successors.

Protestant Churches:
Other Christian communions deny Peter's supremacy over the other Apostles.

Apostolic Church:
The Apostolic Church claimed to be infallible in her teachings. "When you heard and received from us the word of God, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but, as it truly is, the word of God" (1 Thess. 2:13).

Catholic Church:
The Catholic Church alone, of all the Christian communions, claims to exercise the prerogative of infallibility in her teaching. Her ministers always speak from the pulpit as having authority, and the faithful receive with implicit confidence what the Church teaches, without once questioning her veracity.

Protestant Churches:
Protestant churches repudiate the claim of infallibility, denying that such a gift is possessed by any teachers of religion. The ministers advance opinions as embodying their private interpretation of the Bible. Their hearers are expected to draw their own conclusions from the Bible.

Apostolic Church:
Our Saviour enjoined and prescribed rules for fasting: "When thou dost fast, anoint thy head and wash thy face, so that thou mayest not be seen by men to fast" (Matt. 6:17). The Apostles fasted before engaging in sacred functions: "They ministered to the Lord, and fasted." "When they had appointed presbyters for them in each church, with prayer and fasting, they commended them to the Lord" (Acts 14:22).

Catholic Church:
The Church prescribes fasting to the faithful at stated seasons, particularly during Lent. A Catholic Priest is always fasting when he officiates at the altar. He breaks his fast only after he says Mass. When Bishops ordain Priests they are always fasting, as well as the candidates for ordination.

Protestant Churches:
Protestants have no law prescribing fasts, though some may fast from private devotion. They even try to ridicule fasting. Neither candidates for ordination, nor the ministers who ordain them are ever required to fast on such occasions.

Apostolic Church:
St. Peter and St. John confimed the newly baptized in Samaria. "They laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit" (Acts 8:17)

Catholic Church:
Every Catholic Bishop, as a successor of the Apostles, likewise imposes hands on baptized persons in the Sacrament of Confirmation, by which they receive the Holy Ghost.

Protestant Churches:
No denomination performs the ceremony of imposing hands except Episcopalians, and even they do not recognize Confirmation as a Sacrament.

Apostolic Church:
Our Saviour and His Apostles taught that the Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ: "Take and eat; this is my body ... All of you drink of this, for this is my blood" (Matt. 26:28). "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not the sharing of the blood of Christ? And the bread that we break is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord?" (1 Cor. 10:16).

Catholic Church:
The Catholic Church teaches, with our Lord and His Apostles, that the Eucharist is truly and indeed the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ under the appearances of bread and wine.

Protesetant Churches:
The Protestant churches; condemn the doctrine of the Real Presence as idolatrous, and say that, in partaking of the communion, we receive only a memorial of Christ.

Apostolic Church:
The Apostles were empowered by our Saviour to forgive sins: "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them" (John 20:23). "God," says St. Paul, "hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation" (2 Cor. 7:10,11)

Catholic Church:
The Bishops and Priests of the Catholic Church, as the inheritors of Apostolic prerogatives, profess to exercise the ministry of reconciliation and to forgive sins in the name of Christ.

Protestant Churches:
Protestants affirm on the contrary, that God delegates to no man the power of pardoning sin.

Apostolic Church:
Regarding the sick, St. James gave this instruction: "Is any one among you sick? Let him bring in the presbyters of the Church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord" (James 5:14).

Catholic Church:
One of the most ordinary duties of a Catholic Priest is to anoint the sick in the Sacrament of Extreme Unction. If a man is sick among us he is careful to call in the Priest of the Church that he may anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord.

Protestant Churches:
No such sacrament as that of anointing the sick is practiced by any Protestant denomination, not withstanding the Apostle's injunction.

Apostolic Church:
Of marriage our Saviour said: "Whoever puts away his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; and if

Because protestants have a rebellious spirit in them. I think deep down they know the mother church. It is funny to me that the original protestants Lutherans and Anglicans actually believe in the Eucharitst but then as more protestant sects kept splitting up they diverted away from the true faith. They just need to come back because protestantism is wack!

2009-11-03 19:25:01 by Al the traditional Catholic