st peter the apostle catholic church

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It is crystal clear here, as St. Paul wrote to the Galatians:
“I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ. For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it. And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers. But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.” -Galatians 1:11-17

St. Paul was Saul of Tarsus, zealously persecuting Christians. (Acts 7:58-8:3)
Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus. (Acts 9)
“Immediately”, St. Paul went and preached the Gospel. (Acts 9:20)

And as he himself testified in the Galatians verse above:
He preached a Gospel that was not according to man.
He did not receive it from man.
He was not taught it by man.
He did not confer with man.
He was not commissioned by man.

That is the Gospel was not according to, received from, taught by, or commission by the Catholic Church, a Pope, or St. Peter!

Jesus Christ revealed Himself to St. Paul; Jesus Christ commissioned St. Paul; Jesus Christ was St. Paul’s Leader and “Pope”, NOT St. Peter!

This is what St. Paul said about St. Peter being “Pope”:
“But from those who seemed to be something – whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man – for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me.” -Galatians 2:6

St. Paul says that the so-called “Pope” St. Peter added “nothing” to him and made “no difference”. He also stated that God shows personal favoritism to “no man” – not even St. Peter!

So, Catholics: What about St. Paul? And what about all his letters that make up the New Testament?

If St. Paul didn’t claim St. Peter as his leader and “Pope”, then how could St. Paul be called a Catholic?
If St. Peter wasn’t St. Paul’s “Pope”, then to what human leader was St. Paul subject to?
Isn’t he disrespectful of your chief Pope, St. Peter?
Should you excommunicate St. Paul?
Should you tear out half of your New Testament – the 13-14 books/epistles that he wrote and burn them?

Or instead, is our only leader Jesus Christ – who revealed Himself to and commissioned St. Paul, just as He reveals Himself to and commissions His disciples today?

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michinok:
Absolutely not.
Carefully re-read my question, and you will see.
Catholics:
Here's an idea - how about answering my question rather than "attacking" Protestants with other random questions. If there is an answer, then answer it. I challenge Protestants all the time, and they answer...and the best ones give scripture to back up their answer. Let's deal with one issue at a time. If you have a completely seperate question, then ask it seperately. In case you weren't aware...that's how this "works". A person asks a question...desires an answer...and others answer it. Which part of this don't you understand?
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Here is the answer for Catholic claim of Peter or Paul or whoever:

1 Corinthians 3:
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
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21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Peter, Paul, Mary - sounds like candy or rock and roll - what it is is heresy.

A Christian is under the discipline of Christ and a Christian not a universalist.

Christ Jesus the Messiah and Anointed is the Head of the Church.

1Titus 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator
between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.

Ephesian 5:23-24
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Savior of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

In the very first words of many of Paul's letters and documents he states he is a servant, a slave, a bond servant of Jesus Christ.
Paul was under the direction of Jesus. fini

2007-12-12 12:21:46 by yachadhoo

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Since Jesus said he would found his church "with this rock" referring to his apostle Peter, and that church became the Catholic church, where does that leave other faiths, such as the Mormons and Assemblie of God, etc. etc,?

Though that passage about Peter being the "rock" is true, it's quite unclear that Peter was actually the "Bishop of Rome" at all. Some scholars hold that he was more likely the leader of the Christian Church in Antioch, though this too is hard to substantiate. The primary claim that Catholics believe in that Peter was the "Bishop of Rome" is very hard to prove and likely has more to do with later bishops of Rome wishing to assume preeminence over the Church and seeing the Peter claim as the best way to support themselves. The reality is that in the early Church The Bishops of Alexandria and of Antioch was as importance if not more important in guiding the overall direction of the Church.

2007-08-04 21:14:54 by 8 Track Mind

(Tradition tells us that St. Peter the Apostle asked the Romans to crucify him upside down because he felt unworthy to be crucified in the same way as Jesus Christ. For this reason Popes (the spiritual descendants of Peter the first Pope of the Catholic Church) have used the upside down cross as a symbol.)

Mostly through movies about Satan and Satanism since the 1960s like The Exorcism of Emily Rose and The Omen.

From what I have read, real Satanists do not use the Cross of Peter.

A St. Peter's Cross is an inverted Latin cross.

The origin of this symbol comes from belief that St. Peter was crucified upside down, as he felt he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner that Christ died (upright).

An inverted cross has been the symbol of the Popes ever since.

I think it is great that the Catholic Church will not let modern popular culture steal this 2,000 year old symbol of faith, hope, and love.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St ._Peter

With love in Christ.

2009-02-17 20:41:31 by vash sunglasses ~Catholic~

Peter was an Apostle - and yes, leader of the church. But that does not mean He was the first Roman Catholic.

I asked before but no one was able to do so - why do Catholics believe they were the first church? Do they not know about the Gnostics?
I'm not claiming that my church was the first church. So your answer has no validity for this question.

And Jesus Christ is part the blessed Trinity but He never actually said "I am the second person of the Trinity."

Just because Peter never says in Scripture "I am pope" doesn't mean it isn't a fact.

I answered your other question as well. There is an unbroken line of popes from Peter to our current Pope Benedict. Even atheists will admit to this historical record!

As for gnostics, where did you get the idea they are Christian?? It was an early heresy. Again, I seriously question your historical knowledge. Where are you getting these assumptions? From watching Hollywood movies like Dogma and Stigmata and reading fiction like the Da Vinci Code?

Not very scholarly or accurate.....

Pax Vobiscum+

2008-02-04 12:39:25 by R&S user formerly known as MoaM

Christ gave the power to teach, to sanctify, and to rule the members of His Church to the Apostles, the first bishops of the Church.

St. Peter was the first Head. After a miraculous escape from prison in Jerusalem, he founded his See in Antioch; here the followers of Christ were first called Christians. Peter made frequent missionary journeys through Judea, Samaria, Galilee, Asia Minor, and probably even Greece. He finally fixed his See at Rome.

St. Peter presided at the Council of the Apostles in Jerusalem in the year 50 A. D. At the same time that St. Paul was beheaded, St. Peter was crucified head downwards, on Vatican Hill, Rome, 67 A. D.

St. John, the Beloved Disciple, lived at Ephesus and governed the Church in Asia Minor.

In the time of Trajan he was thrown into a caldron of boiling oil, but was miraculously preserved. Later he was banished to Patmos, where he had the revelations which we call the Apocalypse. He died at the age of about 100 years, the last of the Apostles, and the only one who did not die a martyr's death. He left his Gospel and Epistles.

St. James the Greater, St. John's brother, labored in Judea, and according to tradition, travelled as far as Spain.

He was the first of the Apostles to be martyred being beheaded in Jerusalem in the year 44, by Herod Agrippa.

St. Matthew preached among the Ethiopians, Persians, and Parthians, and was martyred in Parthia. He wrote the first of the four Gospels.

St. James the Less was Bishop of Jerusalem. He was cast down from the pinnacle of the Temple in 63 A. D. He left one Epistle.

St. Andrew, St. Peter's brother, preached along the lower Danube, and was crucified in Greece.

St. Thomas preached in Persia, Medea, and went as far as India. He was martyred in India, pierced with a lance at the command of the king.

St. Philip preached in Phrygia and Scythia, and was crucified at Hieropolis.

St. Bartholomew preached in India, Arabia,.and Assyria. He was flayed and crucified in Armenia.

St. Simon preached in North Africa, and was martyred in Persia.

St. Jude preached in Syria, and was martyred in Persia. He wrote the "Catholic Epistle".

St. Matthias, chosen to take the place of Judas, preached in Ethiopia, and was martyred in Sebastopolis.

St. Paul was converted miraculously (Acts 9) in the year 34. He of all the Apostles labored the most abundantly. He wrote many Epistles.

He is called the Apostle of the Gentiles, because he carried the Gospel to the pagan world. He travelled extensively and successively to Seleucia, Cyprus, Asia Minor, Phrygia, Galatia, Macedonia, Thessalonica, Athens, Corinth, Miletus, and finally Rome. From Rome he went to Spain and the East, then returned to Rome, where he was martyred in 67 A. D.

Christ intended that this power should be exercised also by their successors, the bishops of the Church.

The Apostles first preached in Judea on the very first Christian Pentecost. Then they dispersed throughout the different countries of the then known world. Everywhere they preached, baptized, and ruled the Christian communities. They were the first bishops of the Church.

"As the Father has sent me, I also send you" (John 20:21).

The Apostles chose men to assist them, imparting to them greater or less powers. Before leaving a place, they chose a successor with full powers (Acts 14:22).

Those who received only a small part of the powers of the Apostles were called deacons. Those given greater power were the priests. Those appointed successors to rule in the place of the Apostles were the bishops.

Christ had given the Apostles full powers to choose successors, when He gave them the powers His Father had given Him (John 20:21)

It was His wish that the Apostles should have successors to continue the Church, which He said would last till the end of the world (Matt. 28:20). Without successors to the Apostles, the Church would have no rulers, and being unorganized would never have lasted.

If they admitted that, then they woould have to conclude that Jesus started the catholic Church and would have to become Catholic

2009-05-03 11:08:20 by