catholic healthcare

The current political stance is in favor of universally accessable health care. However, this teaching is non-dogmatic in nature, meaning that we as catholics are free to decline to follow it to the letter of the law.

As such, while I *DO* support universally affordable health coverage and a limited coverage available only to those who are below a certain income threshhold, having lived in exactly twice as many countries with socialized medicine as without, i can state rather matter of factly that socialized medicine is NOT the panacea of solution to the problem. The problem lies more in a matter of charity (which state run health care is NOT) as well as individual responsibility, and judicial reform of systems that cause the cost of health care to explode

2009-04-26 10:39:15 by ♥ miz*india ♥

Established in 1994 Catholic Healthcare provides a diverse range of services in New South Wales and south-east Queensland. Operating 39 ...

And the question is open to everyone. Will you feel guilty about paying your taxes knowing that they will fund abortions (and that they do fund abortions in other countries?) Think of how many women you know that have had at least one abortion, and think about how many times it was because of incest or rape (for me I know of more than 50 and not a single case where the mother could not have had the child for any reason other than "inconvenience" - something she should have thought of earlier). Anyway, does it bother you that your tax dollars will be funding abortions, and if so, what are you going to do about it? Maybe, just like the millions of women that have abortions in this country, you should think of the consequences of Obama's healthcare plan before you let it pass through congress. I am really not interested in the answers of the "pro choice" crowd, (because they don't allow the child a choice) but they can answer too if they just can't restrain themselves in promoting their "morality". I think this is an important question to think about. To sum it up 1.Are you okay with your tax dollars paying for abortions of millions of "inconvenient babies" (I personally know several women who use abortion as a method of "birth control" and I am sure you do too whether you are aware of it or not.)? 2. If this is not okay with you, what are you going to do about it before it is too late? 3. Do you believe you will be held accountable for what is happening in your country one day before God?
ouragon - I would not be so confident of that if I were you. Most women don't admit they had abortions especially for that reason. You have no idea. If you think all abortions are "justifiable" you have your head in the sand.
I am surprised how few are even willing to answer this.

Our tax dollars already fund abortions. Obama's health care plan, and current plan for foreign countries, includes an increase in that funding and an increase in abortions.

Yes, it upsets me. I vote pro-life, I march every year at the pro-life march in DC. I promote life, and speak out against abortion. I

I want to be able to say to our Lord, that I did what I could for those who had no voice.

2009-07-21 11:25:22 by LicensedPoet

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The critical role of the Catholic Church in passing national health care reform legislation is coming under serious media scrutiny. But the story has taken a strange turn. It has now been revealed that George Soros, the billionaire hedge fund operator and well-known atheist, has been pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into "progressive" Catholic groups that are significant players in the national debates over health care and immigration.

On the surface, it would appear that Soros would be opposed to many positions of the Catholic Church.


A major financial backer of the ACLU, Soros supports such causes as drug legalization, the rights of "sex workers" and felons, euthanasia, radical feminism, abortion rights, and homosexual rights. He does all of this in the name of promoting an "open society."

But a review of the records of his Open Society Institute finds that a group calling itself

Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good (CACG) has received $200,000 from them over the last several years.

James Todd of Pewsitter.com, which represents traditional Catholics, calls such groups "CINOs," or Catholics In Name Only. He explains, "This group and several others have sprung up recently-I suspect purposely organized and funded-to counterbalance the growing influence of the faithful Catholics AND to try to deceive and mislead the middle of the road Catholics that have determined the last 13 Presidential elections."

An AIM investigation also finds, however, that Soros money has gone into the Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC), an organization established by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops back in 1988. It has received at least $530,000 from the Open Society Institute.

The two issues merge in the fact that the Catholic Bishops are demanding that national health care legislation cover illegal aliens.

In a story headlined, "Religious Leaders Seek Healthcare for Illegal Immigrants," the Los Angeles Times recently quoted Kathy Saile, director of domestic social development with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, as saying that illegal immigrants should be included in any healthcare reform plan. Father Richard Estrada of Our Lady Queen of Angels Catholic Church in Los Angeles was described as being part of a religious service and phone bank "to urge congressional leaders to include illegal immigrants in any healthcare reform plan." His church has in the past offered sanctuary to illegal immigrants.

CACG played a role in House passage of H.R. 3962, the bill known as Pelosicare and boasts that it had joined with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Catholic Health Association, and "dozens of other Catholic and faith-based groups in celebrating this historic vote."

The group's blog even offered a "Health Care Reform Prayer," asking for God's help in passing federal legislation.

John Gehring, CACG media director, told AIM that "We have been primarily focused on highlighting the moral dimensions of this issue and articulating how Catholic social teaching addresses health care as a human right central to a just society. Along with other faith-based groups like PICO National Network, Faith in Public Life, Sojourners and others we brought citizens and faith leaders to Capitol Hill several weeks ago to meet with representatives and they emphasized the urgency for reform and specifically the critical issue of affordability. For example, Fr. Joseph Shad, S.J., a hospital chaplain at Mercy Hospital in Portland, Maine, came to Capitol Hill and met with representatives. He shared stories we have collected from citizens across the country as part of our project, Voices for Health Reform."
http://www.rightsidenews.com/20091112727 4/editorial/atheist-soros-funds-catholic -groups.html

The Catholic Church is just a remnant of times long past. They will accept monies from anyone in order to remain in the public forum. They will also pander to the organizations that "bestow"
them with operating wealth. It would be interesting to learn what Soros's plan is re: the church and his motivation to offer monetary support.

The church is monetarily wealthy. Read about all their vineyards in the chateaus all over the world. Additionally, the church has multiple Holdings in real estate world wide. So perhaps Soros and the current pope and his "henchemen" are working a deal.

2009-11-12 14:51:43 by ANNIE

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This is also known as catholic healthcare west-is it in any way affiliated with Catholic Hospitals East?

They are not affiliated. Catholic Heathcare West is made up of leadership of various Religious communities who formerly sponsored their own health care facilities. With the state of health care today, most Religious Communities can no longer afford to maintain sole sponsorship of their own health care system and have merged them together under an umbrella organization. Provena Healthcare is an Midwest example of this.

2008-05-10 10:09:15 by Crystal Vision

Of course the physicians, politicians and related industries don't like that. I just remember how well the hundreds of Catholic hospitals were in their hey day. Now, is is costly and arrogant, rude people run the whole dang thing.

That is one option. But not what the American people elected Obama to bring in.

First of all, Obama wants to make insurance more available to all. And change the system so that it is cheaper, and also so that the insurance companies find it harder to get out of paying for treatment. The system he is proposing looks similar to that that works in Holland.

Second, of course universal health-cover sucks. That is why we in Western Europe have it. We think, hmm, our healthcare system sucks. I know, lets keep it. I guess that is the same with Japan and Canada as well.

FACT - the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.

FACT - the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.

That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.

2009-07-15 22:11:50 by tribes