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His Broken Body: Understanding and Healing the Schism between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches
Laurent Cleenewerck (Paperback) Lulu.com 2008-01-11
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1)Did Roman Catholic Church used Icons?
2)Who was the leader of the Eastern Orthodox Church?
3)Why did the protestants decided to form their own branch of Christianity?
4)Who was the Pope that didn't grant King Henry VIII a divorce?
5)Who completed the first English translation of the Bible?
1. Yes they did and do. They do not treat them so special as EOs do.
2. Jesus Christ. There is no one universal ruler on the Earth.
One area of ecumenical dialogue has been the dialogue among Roman Catholics, Eastern Rite Catholics, and Orthodox Christians. In the 11th Century ...
Both Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox Church leaders make the identical claim that they gave the world the Bible.
If both the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches make the same claim they gave the world the Bible, why do they have different books in each of their Bibles?
Who should we believe?
You might want to try to appeal to pre-Schism councils (e.g. Carthage). Those seem to, for the most part, support the Roman Catholic canon (e.g. the absence of 3rd and 4th Maccabees).
A great book covering the history of the Biblical canon (though mostly from the perspective of Catholics and Protestants, with very little focus on Orthodoxy) is Gary Michuta's "Why Catholic Bibles are Bigger". This work covers the different councils, as well as the positions of several Church Fathers. You also might find his bibliography particularly helpful in this matter.
The following site...
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Bible/Text/Canon/canonages.html
...also lists the canons employed by different Church Fathers or codices.
Another issue that might make this even more difficult is the fact that the Orthodox canon is not exactly uniform. For example, the Russian Orthodox Church still employs 4 Ezra (also called 2 Esdras or the Ezra Apocalypse), as it appeared in the origincal Slavonic Bible. The Greek Orthodox church, however, does not include 4 Ezra (as it was never part of the Septuagint).
I had just asked a similar question in the past few days, and got no satisfactory answer. It is a tough subject for me. Please keep us informed as to what you find!
well im doing this test for my 7th grade social studies class and the last question id worth ten points and it says:Explain the conflict between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church.What were its origins and how was it resolved?
The Orthodox and Catholic Churches were one and the same until they separated from one another in 1054 mainly over the role of the Pope.
There are very few theological differences. The main difference is that the Orthodox Churches (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11329a.htm) use the Byzantine Rite (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04312d.htm) and the Catholic Church use the Roman or Latin Rite.
Pope John Paul II said of the Orthodox Churches in Orientale Lumen, "A particularly close link already binds us. We have almost everything in common."
For the entire document, see: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_02051995_orientale-lumen_en.html
With love in Christ.
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Ive been looking into the theology of Orthodox and find very little difference between the two except Papal Authority. Can anyone else add to this? Many thanks
The Catholic (for there are also Eastern Rites) and Orthodox Churches are very similar in their beliefs. From a Protestant or Catholic view, the Catholic Church is much more similar to the Orthodox Church than it is the Protestant churches. Pope John Paul II considered the Orthodox Church to be the "other lung" of Christianity. "Ut Unum Sint" is an encyclical letter written by JPII that explains the Catholic view of other Churches and ecclesial communities (those who do not have apostolic succession.) The Orthodox, however, consider the Catholics to be closer to Protestantism than to Orthodoxy.
Although mostly the same, there are some major differences that would be hard to overcome. The two that are pointed out most often are 1.) Papal Authority (As you already know.) and 2.) The Filioque clause
1.) The two churches are set up differently. The Catholic Church has the Pope as its head whereas the Orthodox Church is a conciliar body. Each Patriarch is in charge of his own jurisdiction. Since Rome is no longer part of the Orthodox Church, the position of "first among equals" has passed to the Patriarch of Constantinople. Orthodox believe that the Pope has over stepped his bounds in saying that he is in charge of the other bishops. Also, he is not infallible when speaking ex-cathedra as Vatican I said he was.
2.) Filioque means "and the Son." Originally, the Nicene Creed read "who proceeds from the Father." However, in order to combat the Arian heresy a priest in France inserted the words "and the Son." The Greek East did not like this, but it did not become a real issue until the pope supported the addition. Since the Creed had been made during an Ecumenical Council the East did not think that it should be changed. Orthodox believe that the Holy Spirit has his origin only in the Father. Some people say that the issue of the Filioque is just an issue of semantics, but to Orthodox Christians it is a very large part of why they are not in union with the Catholic Church.
Other differences:
* View of Ecumenical Councils
Orthodox believe that they must be accepted by the people in
order to be truly Ecumenical.
Catholics believe that the bishops meet together with the pope in
attendence and hold an ecumenical council. The people of the
church must accept what they have said because it is an
ecumenical council.
Orthodox = 7 Ecumenical Councils
Catholic = 21 Ecumenical Councils
*View on original sin
Western Christians put a lot more value on the writings of St.
Augustine than Eastern Christians do. They do not believe in
original sin, but only personal sin. People are not born sinful,
but only have the affects of sin (ie. death, sickness, pain.) For this reason, Orthodox Christians do not believe in the Immaculate Conception. They believe that Mary, or the Theotokos, never commited a sin, but since there is no original sin, the immaculate conception has no meaning, and could even be a heresy. Plus it was spoken ex-cathedra by the pope and is considered unnecessary for belief.
*priestly celibacy: The Roman rite requires that priests be celibate in all most every case (the exception being a protestant pastor, usually episcopalian, who decides to enter the priesthood.) Before an Orthodox priest is ordained he must decide whether or not he wants to get married. If he does, he needs to do it before ordination. If he doesn't he has the opportunity to become a bishop. A priest cannot remarry after ordination.
*Orthodox like mystery and think that the Catholic Church has placed far too much prominence on reason. Think St. Thomas Aquinas.
*Transubstantiation: Orthodox believe the Eucharist to be the body and blood of Christ, however it should be kept a mystery and not tried to be explained.
*Confirmation is called Chrismation in the Orthodox Church. A baby or convert receives this along with First Communion and Baptism all at the same time. Babies do not have to wait until the age of reason before they can be given communion.
*Most Orthodox Churches as well as some Eastern Rite Catholics use the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. Roman Rite Catholics use the Novus Ordo or in some Traditional parishes the Tridentine Latin Mass.
*Orthodox LOVE their Icons! It makes up a large aspect of their faith because a picture is worth a thousand words and the icons not only tell but show the faith.
*Orthodox fast on Wednesdays and Fridays.
*Number of books in the Old Testament
Other ways that you can find out information:
make an appointment with a local Orthodox priest (if you have one in your area.) Read some books about the Orthodox Church. "The Orthodox Church" by Bishop Kallistos Ware gives the beliefs and history of the Orthodox Church. You might also like "The Truth: What Every Roman Catholic Should Know About the Orthodox Church."
A website that I found helpful is http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/
go to the forum and they have a section titled "Childboard: Orthodox-Catholic discussion."
Ut Unum Sint can be found at http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25051995_ut-unum-sint_en.html
I've been very curious about this. Being raised an Amercan Catholic we were never told of the real differences. Please help me clarify this. Serious anwers please. Let's be sane about this.
The Orthodox and Catholic Churches were one and the same until they separated from one another in 1054 mainly over the role of the Pope.
There are very few theological differences. The main difference is that the Orthodox Churches (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11329a.htm) use the Byzantine Rite (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04312d.htm) and the Catholic Church use the Roman or Latin Rite.
Pope John Paul II said of the Orthodox Churches in Orientale Lumen, "A particularly close link already binds us. We have almost everything in common."
For the entire document, see: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_02051995_orientale-lumen_en.html
With love in Christ.
