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I was a bit curious as to a bit of Irish history...so in ancient times, Ireland wasn't yet a part of the Church in Rome, and had its own Celtic Catholic Church? Or was Celtic Catholicism always a part of Roman Catholicism in general?

Could someone please help clear this bit of history up?

Early Irish Christians had some practices that were not in line with the teachings of the church, among them would have been baptising children in milk, there were multiple bishoprics were set up in line with tribal boundaries, high positions in the church were passed throught he family rather then through normal lines of succession as well as the buying & selling of positions and of course there was good old fashioned thieving of assets from monasteries. The monasteries also tended to have a bigger say over how things were run then the Church.

Starting with Synod of Rathbreasil in 1118 they started to bring Ireland into line with the rest of the Church. Starting with re-drawing the diocisean map & reducing the number of bishoprics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathbreasail

It was followed by 3 other Synods.

As Orla C has pointed out Pope Adrian made Henry II 'Lord of Ireland' and he promised to make us behave ourselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudabiliter

2008-12-10 23:11:07 by Samian's Sixth Account

im mirroring it, because i have a feeling that this debate will turn legendary. earlier i already mirrored Christopher Hitchens contribution to ...

I just was wondering because I am Roman Catholic and wanted to know what the difference was.

Please say the difference in beliefs, worship and so on.

Thanks

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The Roman Catholic Church is ruled by the Pope from Rome.
The Church of England is a protestant church that does not recognise the rule of Rome and has as it`s figure head the ruling Monarch.
There are no real differences of belief, but not so much emphasis is placed on the BVM and the Saints and the grandeur has been somewhat `toned down` in the CofE, but that is a bit debatable at times !
CofE Vicars are mostly married, RC Priests take a vow of celibacy.
There a few differences in ritual, but, that is the essence of the differences.

Oh and the split from Rome was much more complicated than a `divorce` issue and had rather more depth to it than Robin Williams could portray.
It was much more about that good church thing .. Money.. and the huge amount of tax paid to Rome when Henry had a war going on and a navy to build.
I assume a bit of philosophy was applied to the matter as
the CofE was not the only Christian Church to split from Rome.

2008-02-01 05:53:48 by nextgengamer99

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Apart from the location of where the majority of worshipers of each Church live...

Roman Catholic Church was part of Orthodox Church before it split away from the true church established by Jesus' disciples. In orthodox churches, holy communion is given to kids immediately upon baptism, but RC churches do it in a separate function after kids grow to an age of 7-8. Orthodox churches believe that every clean person, who is a baptized member of the church is eligible to receive holy communion and that is why they give it to kids immediately after their baptism.

Priests are not allowed to marry in RC, while in Orthodox churches priests are allowed to marry, before ordainment. Married Priests can not become Bishops.

Orthodox Churches do not give holy communion to anyone except their members; whereas in RC no such restrictions.

RC gives lot of importance to Idolization of Jesus and saints, while orthodox churches use only paintings to remember them. They do not consider such pictures holy, but are used only for remembrance. But in RC, they carry idols of saints and Jesus on celebrations.

Orthodox Church consider all saints including mother of Jesus equally. But in RC, Mary is placed above all saints, and they teach to chant "hail mary" prayer continuously for 40-45 times. Orthodox churches do not teach ranting and Mary is honored as the mother of Jesus.

RC uses cross with Jesus hanging on it, while Orthodox churches use empty cross. RC gives importance to crucified Christ and also infant Jesus. But in orthodox churches, they only consider resurrected Christ. The Church believes that without resurrection, there would not have been Christianity. It is the resurrection of the Christ that gives hope to everyone and if he wasn't resurrected, his crucifixion would have been worthless.

All RC churches are under Pope, while orthodox churches are having their own regional Catholicos or Patriarchs.

2008-11-23 23:21:42 by Nouvelle Vague.

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Yup, one, holy, Catholic and apostolic. Built upon the rock of St Peter and started by Christ. All the others are from the traditions of the men who founded them. Pax Christi

2009-01-11 15:42:56 by Fred M

Catholic Churches all over the world recognize the pope as their supreme leader. For many years, the Roman Catholic Church was dominant in England. Then England went through that period in the late Middle Ages where it became a very dominant nation with a powerful navy and rich colonies in the New World supplying it with wealth. The British leadership didn’t like being subservient to the pope and the Roman Catholic Church who was seen as an old world lapsed power, so they wanted a way to break off from the Roman Catholic Church without causing too much upheaval within their own populace. So they came up with the Church of England (Anglicanism) and they referred to this new religion as ‘reformed Catholicism.’ But all it really is, is Catholicism minus the pope and minus the Vatican’s authority, right? There’s still all that pomp and ceremony, phony rituals and bizarre rites of passage associated with Catholicism, right? But they have their leader, ‘the Archbishop of Canterbury’ and also the reigning British monarch is supreme leader of the Church of England but this was all just to replace the authority of the pope with British authority, right?

Cool question!

Yes, I think you've just about hit it right on the nose.

Except I do believe that King Henry VIII wanted to divorce his wife and the Pope at the time was adamant on him not getting a divorce of course it was much better than what he did before - behead his wife.

Anyway, Henry's scribes and advisers reminded him that he was the KING and that he could change anything he wanted . . . and so he did - by the way he did get that divorce.

But the Church of England wasn't that much different from the Roman church, except she had no Pope and the break from Rome made the Archbishop of Canterbury the spiritual head of the Church of England and the King became its secular head. Henry VIII authorized the archbishop to fire the surplus clergy and to start the process of consecrating bishops to fill any vacancies. Therefore, he gave the Archbishop of Canterbury the task of translating the liturgy from Latin into English. The first part to be done was the Great Litany, a national prayer of repentance and deliverance.

Be Blessed:-)

2009-03-26 16:46:34 by Desiree